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Erik J Larson's avatar

Hi Martin,

As I sit here waiting on my Jeep to get inspected ... endless economic growth yes I really understand this pain point. I've spent embarrassing amounts of time trying to come to terms with the fact that we can't stop consumerism "once it starts." People simply don't give up the latest "innovations," barring I suppose the Unabomber. The "entrepreneurs" in this narrower and quite troubling sense are simply responding to demand--or creating it, but the difference is increasingly beside the point. I don't know what to say about this--we have eight billion people on the planet largely because we can feed orders of magnitude more people per acre. Some small percentage after benefitting economically from the very society they despise can f-off to Alaska or what have you (count me in). But the vast majority need their cell phones for their bosses and their day to day. No one is REALLY eschewing technology, anymore than no hunter gatherer insisted fire was the devil and he'd eat his Musk Ox raw, thank you very much. Complaining about tech and consumerism is a full time sport. Changing anything is a fiction novel. Argh I feel your pain. Really. It's very very difficult anymore to opt out or to change let's call it rampant consumerism and Wall Street values. I have friends who tell me they're moving to Idaho and two weeks later tell me they got their investment and are opening offices in Seattle. No one is--really can be anymore--truly serious about opting out. I have European friends who are energetically confronting the "American experiment"... using Silicon Valley technology. I don't blame them and am somewhat of a Europhile myself, but it again highlights the fundamental Sysophysian challenge. Perhaps it's a harbinger of the end of times, and THIS is the exact problem I want to discuss, so thank you. I might add: I wrote a book for Harvard and now turn to saying what I say here. And it's better. Harvard is part of the problem, though I very much respect my ex editor(s). It's all hands on deck. Erik

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Eric Dane Walker's avatar

Dataism's metaphysics envisions data as given and envisions givenness as the mark of the objectively real. Something given, it is thought, is something whose existence and character no mind, no will, could alter. And something thusly unalterable, it is thought, is something objectively real.

Brooks was on to something: with data, dataists assume they have a window onto untouched, mind- and will-independent reality.

Which suggests that dataists don't understand what data are and what makes data possible, don't understand what measurement is and what makes it possible, and don't understand observation and what makes it possible.

Thanks for another thought-provoking post!

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